newtown and christmas eve, chances that we are going to get meaningful gun control yes or no, richard you first and then you julian. >> yes. >> julian? >> yes. particularly if there is a concerted movement over many months. >> it was a yes or no. it was just a yes or no. >> but there's a key proviseo. there. every time we've done this, the nra counts on the clock. that the public will shift attention over time. the key here is the public todays focused. but that's the key contingency. >> i think the sad reality of the christmas eve incident is that we'll continue to see gun violence. sadly there will continue to be examples that we can point to to try to keep the pressure on. >> 30 a day. >> getting some action done. thank you to julian epstein and richard wolffe. happy new year if i don't see you. >> same to you. >>> stay with us. we have more ahead. ♪ >>> we have updated information now on the health of former president george h.w. bush. a family spokesman tells nbc news he still has an elevated temperature and there remains no discussion of a discharge date from methodist hospita
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newtown in their hearts and on their minds over the christmas holiday. there is now a plan to save the thousands of the items honoring the sandy hook school shooting victims. the flowers, the signs, the teddy bears and the tributes will become part of a sacred memorial. we'll tell you about that. >>> also, i'll talk with a congressman who wants to use the national rifle association against itself on gun reform. if there is a disconnect between nra members and the nra leadership. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] everyone deserves the gi of all day pain relief. this season, discover aleve. all day pain relief with just two pills. it's lots of things. all waking up. ♪ becoming part of the global phenomenon we call the internet of everything. ♪ trees will talk to networks will talk to scientists about climate change. cars will talk to road sensors will talk to stoplights about traffic efficiency. the ambulance will talk to patient records will talk to doctors about saving lives. it's going to be amazing. and exciting. and maybe, most remarkably, not that far away. the next big thing? we'
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